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Post by planetmalc on Jul 23, 2013 16:32:13 GMT
Taxi's used diesel.
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Post by vince on Jul 23, 2013 16:36:09 GMT
I seem to recall that before the days of unleaded fuel, there was a star system for grading petrol quality. I think 4 star was the most refined (and hence the most expensive ?). Can anyone elaborate more on how the star rating system worked ? What grade did 1960´s cars use ? Was it really only buses, trucks and ice cream vans that used diesel ? Dunno for sure but I think it had something to do with the lead content. 2 star being the lowest octane. All I remember was 2 star, 4 star, and at a few garages you could get Premium 5 star. My compny HC Vivas used to 'pink' on anything less than 4 star, which in 1972 cost 30p a gallon, at Cooks lane Garage you got a free car wash if you bought 4 gallons or more... If you had a 2 stroke - mainly bikes, but I did have a Wartburg for a bit, 3 cylinder 1 lite 2 stroke - you had to add a shot of oil to the petrol for anothr 10p a shot, or there was a hand pump for 2 stroke, ready mixed at the garage opposite. That was only fit for lawn mowers, all my bikes used to pink on that stuff. an old trick so I'm told was to add moth balls, which increased the octane rating somehow. Not sure when Diesel cars caught on, we had a Diesel transit in 1973, it was a pig to start even though it was only 12 months old, and Diesel (From the pump marked DERV) was hard to find sometimes. Only place I remember having it at one time was somewhere near Drummond rd school, on the left if you were going towards town. I cant for the life of me remember exactly where. Apparently, Thos Midgley was the man who had the idea to add lead, and is widely considered to be the person resposible for more deaths than anyone else - ever.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2013 8:15:20 GMT
Thanks for all the extra info Vince - I´d completely forgotten about DERV - used to see it written in big letters outside petrol stations in the late 1970´s - didn´t realise it was diesel! Scary how quickly things change. Unleaded only started around 1990 - but luckily it was a change for the better. Do you remember all the gimmicks employed to sell fuel, including 25 x Green Shield stamps on fill-ups!
A Tiger-Tail hanging from your tank.
Plastic sheet with 'bullet holes' printed on.
World Cup Medals of Footballers / Clubs.
And the best jokes like:
'Free Ronnie Biggs with every 4 gallon'
Happy days,
Ray.
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Post by joebedworth on Jul 24, 2013 14:33:17 GMT
Dunno for sure but I think it had something to do with the lead content. 2 star being the lowest octane. All I remember was 2 star, 4 star, and at a few garages you could get Premium 5 star. My compny HC Vivas used to 'pink' on anything less than 4 star, which in 1972 cost 30p a gallon, at Cooks lane Garage you got a free car wash if you bought 4 gallons or more... If you had a 2 stroke - mainly bikes, but I did have a Wartburg for a bit, 3 cylinder 1 lite 2 stroke - you had to add a shot of oil to the petrol for anothr 10p a shot, or there was a hand pump for 2 stroke, ready mixed at the garage opposite. That was only fit for lawn mowers, all my bikes used to pink on that stuff. an old trick so I'm told was to add moth balls, which increased the octane rating somehow. Not sure when Diesel cars caught on, we had a Diesel transit in 1973, it was a pig to start even though it was only 12 months old, and Diesel (From the pump marked DERV) was hard to find sometimes. Only place I remember having it at one time was somewhere near Drummond rd school, on the left if you were going towards town. I cant for the life of me remember exactly where. Apparently, Thos Midgley was the man who had the idea to add lead, and is widely considered to be the person resposible for more deaths than anyone else - ever.
Vince.
That garage was Galoways........just before Blake Lane.
Joe.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2013 15:16:43 GMT
Dunno for sure but I think it had something to do with the lead content. 2 star being the lowest octane. All I remember was 2 star, 4 star, and at a few garages you could get Premium 5 star. My compny HC Vivas used to 'pink' on anything less than 4 star, which in 1972 cost 30p a gallon, at Cooks lane Garage you got a free car wash if you bought 4 gallons or more... If you had a 2 stroke - mainly bikes, but I did have a Wartburg for a bit, 3 cylinder 1 lite 2 stroke - you had to add a shot of oil to the petrol for anothr 10p a shot, or there was a hand pump for 2 stroke, ready mixed at the garage opposite. That was only fit for lawn mowers, all my bikes used to pink on that stuff. an old trick so I'm told was to add moth balls, which increased the octane rating somehow. Not sure when Diesel cars caught on, we had a Diesel transit in 1973, it was a pig to start even though it was only 12 months old, and Diesel (From the pump marked DERV) was hard to find sometimes. Only place I remember having it at one time was somewhere near Drummond rd school, on the left if you were going towards town. I cant for the life of me remember exactly where. Apparently, Thos Midgley was the man who had the idea to add lead, and is widely considered to be the person resposible for more deaths than anyone else - ever.
Vince.
That garage was Galoways........just before Blake Lane.
Joe.
Hi Joe / Vince
Was this the Galloways on Bordesley Green just before Blake Lane going into City?
Ray.
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Post by vince on Jul 24, 2013 17:03:27 GMT
Vince.
That garage was Galoways........just before Blake Lane.
Joe.
Hi Joe / Vince
Was this the Galloways on Bordesley Green just before Blake Lane going into City?
Ray.
No, not there. Looking google earth I reckon it was on the corner of Blakeland St. on the same side. DERV = Diesel Engined Road Vehicles by the way.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2013 18:26:19 GMT
Hi Vince - Joe
Was it this one with Blakeland Street in view?
Ray.
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Post by spikey on Jul 24, 2013 20:25:39 GMT
The garage on Bordesley Green was called "Dalloways" and they specialised in wedding car hire. There was a modern filling station on the corner of Blakeland St and Bordesley Green operated by Hungarians and after it closed became a plant hire company.
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Post by bernie120g on Jul 24, 2013 21:41:21 GMT
I think this is Dalloways Garage
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Post by vince on Jul 25, 2013 0:26:40 GMT
The garage on Bordesley Green was called "Dalloways" and they specialised in wedding car hire. There was a modern filling station on the corner of Blakeland St and Bordesley Green operated by Hungarians and after it closed became a plant hire company. Sounds like tha one, was a modern garage with a canopy over the forcourt iirc. Bearing in mind twas 40 years ago, when I were just a lad.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2013 4:34:24 GMT
A MORE UP TO-DATE PICTURE OF DALLAWAYS GARAGE
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2013 9:01:04 GMT
Hi bertram_boy,
Good comments, but still you can buy the Mark- Two models with a bloody gas bottle strapped to the heater, just as dangerous in my book! Ps, How is the weather over there? Ray.
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Post by Jerry on Jul 25, 2013 9:14:54 GMT
Never had a paraffin heater but we did have a paraffin lamp in the outside loo. This was a common practice in the winter as the lamp would give off enough heat to stop the water pipe from freezing up. If workmen had to leave a hole in the road or pavement overnight they'd "lamp it up" with paraffin lamps to stop people from falling into it so there was always a ready supply of lamps for people to "borrow" Jerry
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2013 9:27:50 GMT
Hi Jerry,
We had a little blue lamp for the outside loo, no bigger than 6" in height, just to stop the lead pipes freezing.
Seemed to work as I do not remember the toilet freezing up!
Ray.
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Post by bernie120g on Jul 25, 2013 14:56:36 GMT
</a>'>Here's a nice 2 star model Moscow motor show 1971
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